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'W' Considered Harmful

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22 points by jsundram · 29 comments

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BoppreH

Funny how it's a non-problem for some other languages, like Portuguese.

While English allows you to naturally create whole sentences using one-syllable words, it's horribly hard to even put two one-syllable words side-by-side in Portuguese.

That, and "W" takes only two syllables to pronounce, making the grand total six in an URL, the same number required to spell the dots (our domains end with ".com.br", making it three times the two-syllable word "ponto"). And now I remember "W" was not even officially considered a letter until recently, so abbreviations with it are rare.

Before considering a letter harmful, please mind the rest of the world that is also using it.

jbooth

Nobody else says "dub dub dub"?

  • jonkelly

    It's funny because as I started to read this, my first thought was "I'm so thankful that nobody says dub dub dub anymore." My second thought was "I thought this was going to be about how difficult capital W is in deciding character limits since it's so damn wide."

  • aasarava

    I just ignore it and use the TLD when I have to relay a URL verbally. Most Web servers (at least for sites that I build or refer others to) are configured to serve pages without the www in the URL.

  • skermes

    In my more expansive moments I've even used 'trip dub' to cut it down to even fewer syllables than letters.

  • lukifer

    I've always Stephen Fry's solution: "wuh wuh wuh", or simply say the whole thing, "world wide web". 3 syllables either way.

  • Adrock

    I'm going to start saying "World Wide Web"

  • JonnieCache

    I've been enjoying a meme I've spotted on pirate radio of all places: "all the doubleyous"

  • sharkey

    I prefer wub wub wub. Actually, I prefer removing it from URLs :-)

  • regularfry

    "Wubble-you."

  • gojomo

    'Sextuple-Yu'.

    Just kidding... I usually say 'dub dub dub', except to very novice audiences.

sp332

[W is] also the only letter whose name doesn’t include the sound it makes.

What about H?

  • baddox

    G isn't its most common sound. Neither is Q. U's pronunciation doesn't make much sense, except that its long vowel sound is the same as the letter's. Also, I'm proud to be an American because we pronounce Z "zee" instead of "zed," which makes no sense whatsoever.

  • kbatten

    In that case, W pronounced "double ewe" does include the sound it makes.

  • SkyMarshal

    Well, technically there's a 'ch' sound in aitch, so it sort of includes its own sound.

    • duke_sam

      Also in some parts of the world there is a leading H sound, specifically Ireland.

      We also pronounce R like 'or' instead of 'are' which causes endless amusement every time I use the abbreviation HR in the states.

    • a1k0n

      In some accents it's pronounced "haitch".

  • regularfry

    I do know people who pronounce it "haitch."

jjcm

I got scared for a second and thought that the headline referred to Tungsten.

wglb

I have often wondered about a chicago business named W W Grainger, but alas it appears that they did not go for www.ww.grainger.com, opting instead for www.grainger.com.

elwin

I found W's multisyllabic name annoying enough that I began calling it "way". That includes the sound it makes, and it rhymes with A, J, and K.

  • wladimir

    Interesting choice :) The letter 'W' is called a 'way' (English pronounciation) in Dutch.

jacques_chester

In French, W is not expressed as "Double U", but as "Double V", which to me makes much more sense.

However it appears infrequently in written French -- the "w" sound, as it would be spoken in English, is written "ou" (eg "oui"). But in French, the letter w is only really seen in loanwords.

As a pun hack, run together Us. I refer to my university as Triple-U A.

  • artmageddon

    Spanish also pronounces it as "Double V", though I can't say anything about the frequency of it throughout the language.

    • jacques_chester

      Interesting, it might be a Romance language thing. Paging linguists! Paging all HN linguists!

      • Gertm

        In dutch, W is pronounced more or less like you would pronounce 'wey' but without the 'y' sound at the end. (the actual sound doesn't exist in english afaik)

gojomo

In rapid speech I find that 'W' is said less like 'dub ull yew' and more like 'dub uhya', and the 'uhya' is so compressed it's hardly like two distinct syllables. But that might be my Texas showing.

  • rdouble

    In Minnesota, they always stretch out the dub-ull-yew. However, "rapid speech" is not something you'd ever encounter there.

phlux

WHAT! this isnt about Bush!??? but but but.... everyone knows he was harmful!

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