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Tesla remotely disables Autopilot on used Model S after it was sold

theverge.com

97 points by cszerzo 6 years ago · 10 comments

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zaroth 6 years ago

The real story is totally missing at this point, so it’s not surprising that the discussion has gone totally off the rails.

My understanding is this; any time Tesla buys back or is returned one of its cars, all optional features are cleared off the car.

If you sell your used Model S or Model 3 with FSD back to Tesla, one day in the future you may see that VIN for sale on Tesla.com or elsewhere, but the FSD, Acceleration Boost, Homelink, any software upgrades will be cleared off, and available for purchase optionally by the new owner.

In a private party sale, the optional features that are currently active on a car will always stay intact. Tesla does not and will not remove a feature from a car unless they have legal possession of the car.

The software features on the original sales sticker are irrelevant. The used car dealer bought a car from Tesla without EAP or FSD, and we have no documentation to say otherwise. The feature was disabled while the used car dealer still had the car, before it was sold to the now current owner.

When the car was returned under lemon-law back to Tesla, they have every right to reconfigure it however they see fit.

If the used car dealer can provide documentation that Tesla sold them EAP or FSD then it’s a different story. That has not happened.

oarsinsync 6 years ago

Discussion thread from earlier today: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22263721

  • dang 6 years ago

    Thanks—we'll move the discussion there.

    This isn't just a dupe, it's a ripoff of the original source. I feel like this is the third or fourth ripoff article from The Verge that we've had to merge or change the URL on lately.

  • fantasicferret 6 years ago

    Thank you, this is starting to border in the realm of fake news/click bait. Thanks for setting the record straight.

knorker 6 years ago

The title of this article is so misleading that it's borderline flat out lying.

  • AdrianB1 6 years ago

    I don't see it edited, but what the title says is factually correct.

    • manicdee 6 years ago

      The best lies are based on the truth.

      In this case the lie was misrepresenting the position by leaving the reader to assume that Autopilot was intended to be active on the vehicle a Tesla sold.

    • knorker 6 years ago

      If you look carefully, or in fact at all, you'll see that I'm in no way saying that it's not.

      You know the word "misleading", yes?

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