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33 points by optimusrex 6 years ago · 10 comments

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noah-kun 6 years ago

While I'm a big Arango fan, I was hoping the team could create shared clusters for a lot cheaper. Not exactly for my sake, but to help onboard people. For example, get a free DB with a RAM, bandwidth and storage limit, just to try it out. Then of course a $50 price tier for more resources would be great. Right now, the cost of entry is about $150+ USD.

I'm in a situation where I've been trying to, almost for practice, scale my app before release. That means learning Kubernetes and CDNs and more. Because it's a side project in my spare time, I was haemorrhaging money to GCP, in part because of the ArangoDB.

I'm still not very confident in my scaling or sharding skills. I've lost data a few times. A $0, $15 or $50 learner plan would really help me stay on board and evangelize it. Take a look at mLab/MongoDB Atlas: https://mlab.com/plans/pricing/ ($0, $15 and $150 plans).

Lastly, getting deployment options on Alibaba, Huwawei and Linode cloud services would be great. Arango has expanded from Europe and if they don't strike the North American popularity they want, they would be fool-hearty to miss Asian markets--and many of their western customers may ben seeking high availability there. Or just brands better trusted than Western countries.

But yeah, hope I can finally get some reliable Kubernetes!

CJefferson 6 years ago

While I've found running ArangoDB to be fairly painless, it's always nice to have a managed service, and I haven't had to scale past what comfortable fits on a single computer myself. Having Arango keeping an eye on updates, and managing scaling and backups would certainly make me happy if I had a pile of data a business relied on (I'm just using Arango for storing academic data, and if it was lost it wouldn't be the end of the world, just irritating).

It would be nice if it was easier to see pricing, but the fact I looked for that first probably suggests I'm not the type of person this is aimed at!

  • neunhoef 6 years ago

    In academia the cost for running computers and software deployments is usually greatly underestimated (I speak from experience). If you are a for-profit company and compute the full economic costs of running a database deployment including training, devops, alerting, 24/7 maintenance, upgrades, backups and everything you easily come to some $60000 per year.

    Managed services can beat this price by a huge margin, although they seem expensive at first glance.

rubbercasing 6 years ago

Congratulations on the managed ArangoDB release. Have been waiting for this for awhile now, amazing job guys! Firing it up right now.

cwoodward 6 years ago

I have really enjoyed using Oasis during the early bird and I am excited to see it officially launch! Well done everyone!

Ours90 6 years ago

Great news, guys! How does this compare to MongoDB Atlas? Can anybody tell me if it is less expensive or more expensive?

  • ifcologne 6 years ago

    Ingo from ArangoDB here:

    If you need to scale-out, the ArangoDB packages are more affordable then MongoDB Atlas, as you don't need to spin-up a whole 3 node replica-set to add another shard to your cluster. The smaller instances are cheaper in Atlas, here you benefit from the established cloud service, which can negotiate better conditions with the large cloud providers. However, we will pass on lower cloud costs to customers, so there is hope that we will move closer over time. But, I don't see ArangoDB in direct competition with smaller, pure document-use cases. Most users need the multi-model capabilities and use graphs in combination with document operations.

  • neunhoef 6 years ago

    (ArangoDB developer here) MongoDB is a document store, ArangoDB is multi-model, so you have graphs and key/value and search as a additional benefits. The query language AQL is also a huge plus. Price comparisons are always hard, but for similar deployments Oasis will be a bit cheaper. One really has to look at the details here, in particular with respect to sharding and resilience.

homerjam 6 years ago

This is really exciting. All I'd like now is Prisma integration, and pricing info : )

  • janemanos 6 years ago

    Thanks :) Jan from ArangoDB here

    You can see the exact pricing for the deployment configuration you desire within Oasis when you create a deployment. In general, the actual price for your deployment depends on the cloud provider, amount of main memory & storage you selected. The pricing is usage based, so if you only need a deployment for one hour, you only pay for that hour. Hope this helps a bit at least.

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