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Microsoft Reveals New Logo for Microsoft Edge

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63 points by meed 6 years ago · 77 comments

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mthoms 6 years ago

Firefox Developer Edition logo for comparison:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/30/Fi...

  • willis936 6 years ago
    • judge2020 6 years ago

      While the SVG will scale to any size, Chrome has it very small on my screen and even zooming to 500% (max zoom) is smaller than the linked png.

      • willis936 6 years ago

        It's because the scale is small. The size is set to 80x80 pixels, presumably for icon exporting. However there's nothing stopping someone from opening it inkscape and exporting a PNG at 12000 DPI (which results in a 10k x 10k raster resolution). I don't think the logo scale should be so small and I don't think browser should have such limited zoom capability. I place the most blame on the browsers though.

  • Razengan 6 years ago

    Maybe I’ve seen too much games/anime, but that evokes the image of a defeated/burned out fire beast plummeting to the ground..

  • sdegutis 6 years ago

    Oh wow. That’s incredibly similar.

    • dpcan 6 years ago

      I don't agree, other than being blue and having some gradients.

      The Edge logo looks like an "e", not a fox hugging a globe.

      The new logo looks good in my opinion. It has earth tones, looks like an "e", has some edges.

      • johnpowell 6 years ago

        This always differs by people. I thought Samsung pretty clearly swiped the Apple look with the early versions of Android. Even beyond the rounded corners. Sure, it isn't a pixel perfect copy. But I do think inspiration was drawn, even if not intentional.

        I have a bunch of icons in my dock and the only two that look similar are browsers. (I hacked up a copy of the Edge logo from the article and slapped it on a applescript to put it in my dock)

        https://i.imgur.com/fu8zmiQ.png

        • levythe 6 years ago

          These comparisons will be made all over the place, since these designs are always inspiring each other. When I see the new edge logo, I see something that resembles some of the unused branding of the Xbox One and Xbox360, something that resembles the Firefox logo, something that resembles the new design direction of the office suite, something that looks a little like iOS gradients, something that looks a little like the Chrome logo, and so on. I'd say it looks a lot more like old Xbox branding than Firefox branding, though.

    • alpaca128 6 years ago

      Wait till you see the Firefox Nightly logo: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Firefox_Nightly_Logo...

    • dyarosla 6 years ago

      I’d say Microsoft’s new logo is far more reminiscent of Google Chromium- not Firefox.

mxfh 6 years ago

As far as analogies go, I think it's closest to the chromium logo [1], when kinematically interpreted as some sort of extruding shell segments [2], or blades of an aperture (Aperture Science). Overall it's visual language elements are surely intentionally aligned well centered in a space between IE ℮, Chrome and Firefox.

[1] current: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Chromium_11_Logo.svg

[2] old chromium(2009-2011): https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Chromium_Logo.svg https://codereview.chromium.org/2806029/patch/1/61

  • lucideer 6 years ago

    The Chromium logo is angular and defined, whereas Firefox/Edge both represent fluid waves sweeping circularly.

    The Chromium logo is in bluish tones, and is somewhat ring/donut shapes, and beyond those two (very broad) features there are no further similarities.

    See also the Firefox ecosystem logo: http://ffp4g1ylyit3jdyti1hqcvtb-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/open...

    and even more striking, some of the mocks from Mozilla's design docs for future Firefox products https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/11896715/S...

    • mxfh 6 years ago

      There are surely multiple ways to describe similarities. The destinction between chrome and edge is not so hard to me, if seen in contrast between geometric and organic shapes. Firefox and even the mocks (since when do mockups even count, they are explorative for a reason) are way more on the organic side, while besides the last green slob, the edge logo is in strictly geometric territory. As I said there are similiarities, but then one should also bring up a mirrored Ubisoft logo, or various other Spiral/Nautilus inspired ones.

      This is where I get with only a mirror and two identical rotations on different identical subgroups on the suprisingly complex chromium svg logo. (This is as far as I get in 5 minutes, but hope it conveys my interpretation). The tripartion of circular segments as most striking similiarity to me.

      https://i.imgur.com/x6bpBjz.png

galonk 6 years ago

So, like... does EVERYONE think it looks too much like the Firefox logo, or...

wayneftw 6 years ago

I hope they have as much success with this as they've had with VS Code and I'm looking forward to trying their first release of Edge on Linux. It will be great to have the choice of a non-Google, WebKit based browser from a major distributor who has the resources to keep up with and challenge Google on things like Manifest v3.

I find it somewhat ironic that the most used software I'm running on my Linux desktop, VS Code, is a free and open source Microsoft product. It's also the product that really enabled me to make the switch in comfort. Maybe soon though I'll be using Bing more too (among others like DDG) if Google decides to completely remove URLs from search result links.

  • Osiris 6 years ago

    I use Vivaldi on Linux, macOS, and Windows. It's the most customizable browser I've used since Opera 12 (which makes sense, since one of the Opera founders started Vivaldi).

  • zapzupnz 6 years ago

    Edge is based on Blink, not WebKit. Remember that Blink was forked from WebKit six years ago. In web time, that might as well be a century, given the leaps that have been made in web tech in browsers.

  • saber1 6 years ago

    The new Edge is based on Chromium (Uses Blink as the engine), so I don't think it will challenge Google on things like Manifest v3.

  • the_pwner224 6 years ago

    Falkon is the KDE browser which is WebKit-based and not Google. It works on at least Linux and Windows. I believe the GNOME browser (Epiphany?) is also WebKit-based.

    • abrowne 6 years ago

      GNOME Web (aka Epiphany)¹ does use WebKitGTK², but Falkon³ uses QtWebEngine⁴, which is based on Chromium. Qt integrates "the layer rendering of Chromium directly into the OpenGL scene graph of Qt Quick" and does "not containing all of Chrome/Chromium:

      - Binary files are stripped out

      - Auxiliary services that talk to Google platforms are stripped out

      - The codebase is modularized to allow use of system libraries like OpenSSL"

      So Falkon is not like Opera and this new Edge which use almost everything from Chromium, including the app shell, but it's web engine is Chromium.

      1: https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Web/

      2: https://webkitgtk.org/

      3: https://www.falkon.org/

      4: https://wiki.qt.io/QtWebEngine

  • reichardt 6 years ago

    I believe Edge is based on Chromium not WebKit?

troymc 6 years ago

It reminds me of The Great Wave off Kanagawa.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Wave_off_Kanagawa

ravenstine 6 years ago

The further they can move away from the legacy of Internet Explorer, the better.

  • lostgame 6 years ago

    I only remember IE fondly from my early days of using it on OSX and Classic MacOS.

    For Windows it always seemed like Netscape worked better into Firefox came along.

gen3 6 years ago

I can totally see this confusing less technically literate people. I think too many people are trained to just click the blue E.

I think I do like it. I think it fits what Microsoft is trying to do with their design scheme.

cm2187 6 years ago

It's the "c" of Chredge, isn't it?

ai_ja_nai 6 years ago

Firefox Nightly, I'd say: https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1160831232357351425/dlf...

RcouF1uZ4gsC 6 years ago

If you rotate 180 degrees up, it looks like a “G” which I guess is appropriate as it is based on Chrome’s rendering engine.

code4tee 6 years ago

Looks mostly like the Firefox logo

mixmastamyk 6 years ago

I don’t hate it, kinda cool actually, but missing something. Perhaps text.

kaycebasques 6 years ago

I like it.

theclaw 6 years ago

I’m not sure I’m a fan. It’s like a profile shot of a laughing bulbous head. It says supermarket brand laundry detergent to me.

  • saghm 6 years ago

    > It says supermarket brand laundry detergent to me

    I didn't think of this before, but I don't think I'll ever be able to unsee this now

51Cards 6 years ago

Well now if you're colour blind you may not know if you're clicking on Firefox or Edge.

ricc 6 years ago

Most comments say it either looks like Firefox’s logo or Chrome’s. I think it’s kinda both.

cryptozeus 6 years ago

Good logo but that is not going to have anyone start using edge. They offer nothing new. I think brave is far better and innovative browser if anyone wants to try something different then chrome or FF.

  • thrower123 6 years ago

    Having a good, standards compliant browser with active development by default will be something I'll much appreciate. I hope this makes it to Windows Server; I am so sick of only being able to use the extra-locked down, terrible version of IE when I have no other choice but to use a browser when remoted into a box.

rblatz 6 years ago

Is there a source that us with ad blockers can see?

adrift 6 years ago

It looks very underwhelming and lacks personality.

aklemm 6 years ago

It screams “impending doom” to me.

hpoe 6 years ago

I thought they were replacing edge with Blink soon?

  • lucideer 6 years ago

    They're replacing EdgeHTML (the internal engine within Edge) with Blink (the internal engine within Chromium). The name of the overall Edge product isn't changing (to my knowledge).

    • oldmanhorton 6 years ago

      The name isn't going, but we also are replacing much more than just edgehtml. The new version of edge shares very little code with the old version of edge

      • kick 6 years ago

        Is there any reason Microsoft isn't open sourcing EdgeHTML?

        • zethraeus 6 years ago

          i've heard it's strongly coupled to windows' underlying rendering.

          also, probably lack of value to microsoft.

          • jdnenej 6 years ago

            It was probably based on IE which was and maybe still is used to render help pages on windows and probably other things.

    • ilkkao 6 years ago

      Are there any estimates when they make the switch on Windows 10?

burmer 6 years ago

Microsoft reveals new browser for Microsoft Edge.

seemsridiculous 6 years ago

I just see ansolutely no reason why I would use microsoft edge

buboard 6 years ago

They might be sued: https://www.newmoney.gr/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/cosmote-1...

mrtksn 6 years ago

It's an endless joy for me when Microsoft fails to get traction with their new shiny browser and changes something as a fresh start.

It's a decent browser but never again IE. Keep rebranding the browser downloading tool, Microsoft.

That said, these days I am annoyed by "This browser is not supported, use Chrome" messages. Maybe the the history does not repeat but rhymes after all.

Browsers should be made by non-profits like mozilla, in my opinion.

  • pavlov 6 years ago

    The new Microsoft Edge is Chromium, so at least you won’t be getting those messages.

    • mrtksn 6 years ago

      It's not really about the technology but about what Microsoft did until someone finally managed to take them down.

      Microsoft has a cool CEO and Bill Gates is just a tad short of an angel these days, however a history of suffering should not be forgotten. What Microsoft did was not benign.

      • juped 6 years ago

        The loss of EdgeHTML is a tragedy for open web ecosystems. Now there are only two.

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