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People can sense Earth’s magnetic field, brain waves suggest

sciencenews.org

12 points by alexhornbake 7 years ago · 9 comments

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Rooster61 7 years ago

Does this actually prove it's a "sense"? It stands to reason that magnetic fields could subtly affect brainwaves, as brainwaves are electromagnetic in nature, but does that indicate that the body actually does anything useful with this perturbation?

They have well demonstrated that they affect the brain on some level, but I think making the jump to call it a sense requires some actual effect on our physiology or behavior that the body takes advantage of as a means to DO something.

I'm inserting my own definition and understanding of what a sense is here, but I'd wager there there aren't too many ways of defining a sense without somehow including perception as a critical aspect. At least not any that people would buy wholesale or would be easily demonstrated scientifically.

A counterexample to this would be ionizing radiation. Radiation is present in our environment, we generally do not perceive it (at least not on any conscious level, and excluding the sense of heat and visible light, both frequencies along the electromagnetic spectrum), and it certainly has effects on the body that are easily perceivable (tanning/sunburn, cancer, etc). Can we sense it? I don't think many folks would argue that we can.

I also notice that the article uses quite a few weasel words, throwing "suggests" and "hints" in to justify the title. Not fantastic journalism IMO.

  • ncmncm 7 years ago

    That defines good journalism.

    Bald claims with insufficient evidence would be bad journalism.

ncmncm 7 years ago

Cultures whose language requires absolute direction awareness ought to yield individuals who can consciously identify changes in magnetic fields.

It seems like an obvious course of investigation. One wonders whether there was any attempt to recruit such individuals. Not all of them live in inaccessible places -- just most.

Zenbit_UX 7 years ago

Aren't EEG caps full of wires and other metal components? If so, then this study reads like an onion article.

  • ncmncm 7 years ago

    Weak, slowly-changing magnetic fields have no noticeable effect on "wires and other metal components". Have you ever noticed effects of the earth's magnetic field on your earbuds? No? Why not?

  • mpoteat 7 years ago

    I imagine the machines are also quite loud, which would be sensory input. I haven't read the paper, but I wonder how they handle that.

    • ncmncm 7 years ago

      No, they aren't. You might be thinking of MRI machines. Or bulldozers. Or something.

pokethetomato 7 years ago

If people can sense it, does that mean magnetic field changes can effect people ?

  • ncmncm 7 years ago

    "Effect" meaning "bring about" ? That generally requires mating behavior.

    Can it affect people? Evidently so. That is what you just read about.

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