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More Irish people committed suicide under EU austerity than 30 yrs of conflict

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28 points by mbgaxyz 7 years ago · 9 comments

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s_dev 7 years ago

Suicide is a weird statistic. It can almost be a indicator of progress and prosperity in some respcts e.g. suicides rates are high in places like Sweden and Japan and low in places that are very deprived parts of Africa/Asia. Theres a cultural component, a chronological one, a climate one, a psychological, phsiological one etc.

I found the whole article pointless really.

Plenty of intersting things can be said about the Troubles/Irish Financial Crisis but comparing the Troubles to the austerity policies in the Republic during from 08' to 12' isn't that useful nor does it produce insight.

  • HNLurker2 7 years ago

    >Suicide is a weird statistic. It can almost be a indicator of progress and prosperity in some respcts e.g. suicides rates are high in places like Sweden and Japan and low in places that are very deprived parts of Africa/Asia. Theres

    Ted Kaczynski intensifies. Bring back the freedom from Industry... Opsss I am anarchistic again.

forgotmypwd123 7 years ago

Why have you added "EU" to the title? Don't editorialize. "EU" doesn't even appear in the article.

  • s_dev 7 years ago

    He shouldn't editorialize but as an aside the EU/IMF did encourgage the austerity policy on Ireland on condition for receiving bailouts so there is some partial truth there.

colinb 7 years ago

Does this account for the historical reticence of coroners to record a suicide as such because of the stigma that might be heaped upon the dead person, and their surviving relatives? In the 1970s religion was a much stronger force in nearly every aspect of Irish society than it is now.

I'm inclined to believe the modern data more readily than the numbers from the troubles.

  • detaro 7 years ago

    Despite the headline here, it isn't looking at suicides during the troubles, but people killed.

maxxxxx 7 years ago

Is Ireland in such bad shape? I thought they were a big success story during the 90s and 2000s.

  • s_dev 7 years ago

    Ireland is in very good shape economically. Current problems though include a property crisis in Dublin, sharpening inequality and the problem Brexit presents to certain industries like Tourism and Agriculture.

  • mattmanser 7 years ago

    They had a huge housing crash 2007-2010. 31% of mortgaged properties were in negative equity at the end of 2010 (the value of the house is less than the mortgage, so you owe the bank more than the house is worth).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_property_bubble

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