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New Asus 'gaming' phone has more USB ports than 13“ Macbook Pro

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24 points by bmpafa 8 years ago · 18 comments

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IronWolve 8 years ago

And exposes a common flaw in phones, cant run at full speed without throttling due to heat. It has to have a fan to be used at its advertised available performance.

If I buy a car, and expect to do the speed limit on the highway, but it will only do the speed limit for a few minutes, then needs to slow down due to heat, that sounds like fraud.

  • jackvalentine 8 years ago

    Wouldn't a more fair comparison being buying a car, doing the speed limit on the highway all day but also going much faster on the track? But of course you can't drive at full-tilt on a track all day without additional parts?

    • elmerfud 8 years ago

      I think the original comparison is more valid. If you follow the prescribed maintenance schedules, new cars are designed to run to the edge of their operational envelopes for their warranty period. Note this isn't usually dictated by engine power, but suspenstion and tire speed ratings.

      Cars are incredibly over engineered machines.

      • jackvalentine 8 years ago

        There are performance limits reached where the brakes will overheat and you'll need to give it a rest before having another go. Even built-for-purpose race cars have these limits and drivers carefully conserve their brakes so they don't go bad before the race is over.

        I think you might be terribly disappointed if you tried to stress your new car all day long on the edge of its suspension, braking and engine limits.

        • elmerfud 8 years ago

          Your example of a race car being driven to complete a race isn't a valid comparison. It's designed and driven to complete that race. Which is vastly different operating conditions than what a consumer car is built for.

          Consumer cars are not built to run race courses. I think you're confusing my statement of operational envelope with abusive behavior that it wasn't designed for. Consumers cars are built to be driven on the street in a wide variety of environments. From mountains to Autobahn to temperature extremes, etc... All within the advertised operational specs.

          This is actually about the comparison the OP made that you disagreed with. A consumer car is able run at its designed and advertised speeds all day on the Autobahn, without overheating or having to stop and cool down, provided some other variable isn't out of spec. This phone isn't able to run at its advertised speeds continually, the same as a car could. Shocking as it may seem, cars are built to run on roads and at speeds in excess of what the US limits are.

          • jackvalentine 8 years ago

            Edit: Life is too short to argue about this kind of thing on the internet. Have a nice day.

            XKCD386.

  • jackpeterfletch 8 years ago

    I'd say that was slightly factious.

    You still benefit from the extra hardware for bursty loads. Eg opening applications, loading webpages etc etc.

    And if you actually look at typical mobile phone usage patterns virtually all loads are bursty. This even applies to ultrabooks and thin & lights. As a programmer I almost never run my CPU at 100% for more than a few seconds at a time.

    The differance here is that this phone is designed for long loads, ie gaming, others are not so.

chendragon 8 years ago

I wonder if they will provide an option to run Linux when it's plugged into the display. It seems like they're giving it quite the bandwidth to drive a 4K display and fast charge power through the multiple connectors, so it would be nice to see the ability to have this to use as a portable development machine.

At least this is the main selling point for me, coming from iPhone I really do want one to see about doing that on. Of course, being Android/ARM, the kernel might not be the friendliest of all things to be running for development and it might not be updated after a few years. I could imagine that some development would be needed to make the transition from dock to phone more smooth, but I think they could make it work.

I do quite like the attention paid to thermals and power in this device, the 20W power supply surely solves the 'drains when using and charging at the same time' issue unless they decide to throttle current draw when the screen is on like Samsung used(?) to? Seems like the fan might help, given that desktop workloads might push the processor hard.

TwoNineFive 8 years ago

There seems to be a lot of criticisms about this phone that I've seen on reddit, here, and elsewhere.

Personally I would LOVE to have a phone with a USB c port on both sides of the chassis so that I could charge while using a USB-audio jack converter or doing something else with it. Multiple USB ports would offer functionality to people that has not previously been possible with these devices.

I see this as a super innovative product in a market segment that is seeing stagnation. The customers are screaming for bigger batteris and instead we get thinner fragile phones made of glass. People want more jacks sdcard slots and other features, but OEMs are taking features away. All the while, prices are being jacked up, and triple junk cameras are being added.

I think the smartphone market is ripe for a shakeup. If not from some real innovation, from the customer base just refusing to upgrade to more expensive fragile phones that don't offer the features they want at an outrageous price.

MatthiasP 8 years ago

Because it is marketed towards people who buy a spec sheet, not a user experience. Personally I love the fact that one single USB-C port + a decent dongle can replace lots of ports.

tonetheman 8 years ago

It also has the same amount of RAM. :)

charlesdm 8 years ago

I personally can't remember however when I cared about the amount of USB ports in my Mac.

flukus 8 years ago

Looks like they may as well have put a sim card in a Nintendo Switch cartridge and called that a phone.

I can't see it gaining any adoption when all the add ons make it a worse phone, it's too bulky to carry around and probably unsupported by most developers.

I'm pretty confident this will end up on top of the increasingly large pile of failed convergent devices, because convergence is a fundamentally flawed idea.

  • Dylan16807 8 years ago

    > Looks like they may as well have put a sim card in a Nintendo Switch cartridge and called that a phone.

    It's the exact same size as a pixel 2 XL, so I have no idea what you mean. A switch is twice the size and thicker too. This isn't actually bigger than a normal phone.

theshadowknows 8 years ago

Cool fake notch

mastrsushi 8 years ago

Ugly generic Android ((gaming)) phone has more USB ports than beautiful slimeline 13" Macbook Pro.

𝐁𝐫𝐞𝐚𝐤𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐍𝐞𝐰𝐬 We have yet to find a use case for full sized USB ports on a phone. Hence why most OEMs would never do something so redundant to begin with.

For anyone that really wants to plug their keyboard into their 5 inch phone, here's a solution https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01GGKYYT0/ref=asc_df_B01GGKYYT055...

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