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What women at Microsoft face, and why many leave

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15 points by woodhull 8 years ago · 6 comments

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rhapsodic 8 years ago

  Steeped in a workaholic culture that more than once had her
  sleeping on the office couch, she was afraid of missing her 
  school-age daughter’s childhood.

  “I discovered how important family was,” she said. So she 
  quit.
That sounds entirely understandable. Most of the driven, workaholic types I've known over the course of my lifetime have been men.

But I don't think we should outlaw, or even demonize workaholic cultures like the one described.

  • peterhadlaw 8 years ago

    I think we should make sure to let people do what makes them truly happy. It should be okay for someone to prioritize their family over a job if that's what they want to do.

    There's a strong movement, through social pressures, making it not "okay" to do that.

    Just like it should be okay to be a workaholic if that's what helps you sleep, on the couch, at night

    • rhapsodic 8 years ago

      >Just like it should be okay to be a workaholic if that's what helps you sleep, on the couch, at night

      The problem is that workaholic men who put their career ahead of their family do better in their career than women who put their family first. So the social pressure is for men to change their life choices, and companies to change their cultures, to accommodate women.

      • peterhadlaw 8 years ago

        > <class A> who prioritizes their career do better, in their career, than <class B> who prioritizes something other than their career>.

        Is that not how things are supposed to work?

        • rhapsodic 8 years ago

          >Is that not how things are supposed to work?

          Yes, in my view. Not, apparently, in the collective view of our society. If that happens too much in a particular company, like Microsoft, they're subject to government pressure and unfavorable public scrutiny like this article. We simply cannot allow companies to have hard-driving, workaholic cultures if it means that most of the benefits accrue to men rather than women.

          Popular media is constantly reminding me that woman are strong, invincible, fierce and independent. And yet I'm also constantly told that men have to change their behaviors to accommodate women.

  • namlem 8 years ago

    I think we should absolutely stigmatize workaholic culture, or we will end up like Japan.

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