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Google thinks the sun is 15.81 light years from earth

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125 points by ryanatallah 8 years ago · 67 comments

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ridiculous_fish 8 years ago

Google was also quite confident that the alphabet starts with J and ends with G. https://twitter.com/ridiculous_fish/status/86609697117344972...

Just tried it again, now it both starts and ends with A. 50% improvement ain't bad.

d--b 8 years ago

Distance Earth-Sun = 1 AU

1e6 AU = 15.81 light years.

Somebody did not pick up the 'e6' part...

Figs 8 years ago

Huh... with JavaScript off, I get the answer "Distance from Sun: 92.96 million " (presumably miles) on the right hand side. With JavaScript on, I get the wrong answer from the title.

Edit: Actually, it gets the same answer on the right side with JS enabled; didn't notice that earlier. So just the instant answer is missing in the JS-disabled case.

Also, here's a screenshot for posterity (with JS enabled): https://i.imgur.com/8kyI523.png

pizza 8 years ago

Google seems to think that Earth is Gliese 412

Gliese 412 is a pair of stars that share a common proper motion through space and are thought to form a binary star system. The pair have an angular separation of 31.4″ at a position angle of 126.1°.[12] They are located 15.8 light years distant from the Sun in the constellation Ursa Major. Both components are relatively dim red dwarf stars.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gliese_412

Cybiote 8 years ago

As of this posting, if you put a "what" in front of the query, it returns the correct average distance. I suspected the parser, even if it was learned, is sensitive to the query format.

Despite what the press teams of large companies will tell you, our ability to model language is still in its early infancy.

isoprophlex 8 years ago

If they're gonna push their silly instant answers, they'd better make sure the results are correct...

  • smt88 8 years ago

    Google Search so aggressively massages my queries that it's become almost unusable.

    I recently searched "80's rom-coms" and an instant answer came up on top. It was a list of 90's rom-coms. Similar, yes -- but not at all what I typed, and completely useless to me.

    • w4tson 8 years ago

      That’s just general search. When looking for code issues and snippets it’s worse

      Don’t even get me started with github. Half of humanity’s code seems to be in some bucket that doesn’t understand punctuation when you search

    • binarycrusader 8 years ago

      bing seems to get this right in both instant search and otherwise.

      • zenexer 8 years ago

        I'm slowly switching to Bing--not because Bing is getting better, but because Google is getting worse. Google consistently ignores key terms in my queries, and searches are getting slower and slower. Remember when Google used to have that little timer in the top-right corner of the search results? Not anymore...

    • stmw 8 years ago

      I'm glad it's not just me.

  • MiddleEndian 8 years ago

    If you look at my post history, at some point I used google to determine the average words spoken per day. I initially trusted Google's answer indicating women speak 2 to 3 times as many words per day on average as men (which is not true).

    A quick Google search on my phone for "average number of words spoken per day" gives similar results right now. Although the text starts with an ambitious sounding phrase "previous research" it ends in present tense and has 7000 in bold for men and 20,000 in bold for women.

mikexstudios 8 years ago

Wolfram alpha for comparison: https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=distance+from+sun+to+e...

maaaats 8 years ago

Not only is Google "borrowing" content from others to show directly in the search results, more often than not it's completely wrong. Either because they have failed to parse the data correctly, or because it's from some shady web page (happens when googling stuff related to vaccines for instance).

ryanatallahOP 8 years ago

"Earth distance to sun" gives the correct answer: https://www.google.com/search?q=earth+distance+from+sun&oq=e...

  • mkl 8 years ago

    Interesting. It says 149.6 million km, which is correct.

    [distance earth to sun in km] gives 149.6 trillion km, which is 15.81 light years.

nv-vn 8 years ago

the magic of machine learning, everybody

compsciphd 8 years ago

I'm not sure I like Google's attempt to solve global warming.

kevinslashslash 8 years ago

My son likes to ask our Google Home the distance to different planets. The numbers, though generally technically correct (sun has worked in the past), are misleading as some are minimum, some average distance and some maximum.

For example "distance to mars" says 54.6 million km, which is the theoretical minimum. "distance to venus" says 261 million km which is maximum. I believe it was Jupiter that previously gave an average distance but now I'm seeing minimum.

  • mehrdadn 8 years ago

    By the "[maximum] distance to different planets" do you really mean literally that, or do you mean the maximum distances to their orbits?

    • function_seven 8 years ago

      Wouldn’t those be the same? The periods of each planet’s orbit aren’t factors/multiples of one another, so eventually any two will be at opposite points in their orbit.

      • mehrdadn 8 years ago

        The maximum distance between two ellipses is not the same as the maximum distance between all pairs of points on them right? Like just imagine measuring the maximum distance from a circular orbit to itself. One measure would give zero (zero separation between the orbits) and the other would give twice the radius (individual points can be 2R away from each other).

        If I'm doing this correctly I think the max distance between two points would come out to max_x max_y ||x - y|| whereas the max distance to the orbit would come out to max_x min_y ||x - y||.

      • eesmith 8 years ago

        There are orbital resonances, but you are right that none involve planets. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orbital_resonance

        The closest is the 2:3 ratio of Pluto:Neptune. (It counts if you consider Pluto a planet. ;)

        Otherwise, there's a nice table showing "near-integer-ratio relationships between the orbital frequencies". If I understand it correctly, each of the bigger-than-a-dwarf-planet planets will be at their furthest possible distances from each other in timescales no longer than about 50,000 years.

    • Kiro 8 years ago

      What's the difference?

orliesaurus 8 years ago

A little parsing error here, a little parsing error there...

sigmaprimus 8 years ago

Someone should win a bug bounty for that one !

thebyrd 8 years ago

But it seems to get it right if you ask the same question in the opposite order https://www.google.com/search?q=Earth+Distance+from+Sun

crististm 8 years ago

Have a glimpse at the kind of errors we will be facing with the machine-learning AI in the near future.

How do we debug them and how do we know there is an error to correct in the first place?

billrobertson42 8 years ago

Google's systems do not, "think."

  • jsolson 8 years ago

    Having interacted with a lot of computers over the years (including Google's for the last several of my employment), the machines at Google come as close to thinking as I've ever encountered. Two or three times a day they come up with answers that I cannot begin to comprehend how they arrived at. Sometimes they are brilliant, sometimes they are dumb, and sometimes they are merely mad.

    They give every coworker I've ever had a run for their money on catching my fuckups.

  • smt88 8 years ago

    Would you really prefer an accurate title like, "Google's machine-learning instant-answer algorithm's output is '15.81 light years from earth' when the input is 'how far away is the sun from the earth'"?

keitarofujiwara 8 years ago

We should send satellites to Alpha Centauri before Google figures this out.

oh-kumudo 8 years ago

If you google distance between Sun and Earth, Google gets it right.

omarforgotpwd 8 years ago

the AIs are coming to kill us any day now

  • zenexer 8 years ago

    At this rate, they're more likely to jump off a cliff than kill anyone.

  • mar77i 8 years ago

    okay, but only for at least as a grave mistake as google's.

    wait. when people die for no reason whatsoever, that counts, right?

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