No free lunch (at Google) for thought criminals
blogs.harvard.eduOkay, I'm saying this as a republican, but the calling of people visiting a campus as "immigration" is stupid on its face.
I see the reductionist attempt to equate the two, and sure they have in common the fact that it involves people moving their bodies to a new location, but that's where it ends.
Not a single person I know, not even the most liberal, border-erasing people would advocate for the complete eradication of property rights, nor for the removal of a property owner's choice of who to allow on said property.
As a conservative, I was sickened by the filing, because if even half of it was true and not taken out of context, it indicates that Google does have an institutional bias against certain ideas being tolerated.
I'm not saying people should be allowed to harass others, but some of these reactions would constitute harassment.
FWIW, I think this is really an issue of many people at polarized edges of an ideology aren't able to have a constructive discussion without it devolving into shows of force to silence the other.
I think people in the Valley are so far removed from anyone who's politically misaligned that they are desperate for something to lash out against. I remember reading an article about people protesting Palantir on the grounds that they might someday receive a contract for a theoretical deportation database that Trump might someday want to build.
Upvoted for the implication that gender can't be considered a protected class if gender is fluid. Isn't the whole point of protected classes based on being something you can't change about yourself?
> Isn't the whole point of protected classes based on being something you can't change about yourself?
No. I can change my religious affiliation, my choice to engage in collective labor activism, and choice to engage in political activities. The first two are federally protected and the all three are state protected in California in employment.
Immutability, or even not being a matter of personal choice, have nothing to do with labor protections. In fact, labor protections are often about freedom from coercion on matters of choice.
(Not, of course, that the usual concept of fluid gender is that it is a matter of choice or subject to personal control.)
That's like suggesting because gay people exist you can choose your sexuality. That's not how it works. Just because some people don't conform to norms or binaries doesn't mean that you can just arbitrarily pick something.
nope. religion, age, and veteran status are all protected classes and not static.
Age and veteran status are pretty much static? Like sex and gender.
On the contrary, opinions like religion and politic affiliation are the exact opposite (and that you find those conflated in things like CoC troubles me).
> Age and veteran status are pretty much static?
No, age and veteran status change over time. It's true that in the direction they are legally protected, they are mostly one-way gates into protected status (you can become a veteran or a person over 40, but you don't normally exit either status; it's theoretically possible with veterans status, but extremely rare.)
Physical and mental disability, citizenship status, are also protected and non-static.
In California law, marital status, medical conditions, HIV/AIDS status, and status as a domestic violence or stalking victim are also non-static and protected.
You did not get what static means in the context (or maybe why it was a bad choice of word) : the interesting particularity of a "static" trait is that it is not possible to will yourself out of it even if you really want to.
Of course your age change, and a veteran once was not ; but try to get younger if you want? nope. Un-AIDS yourself by the force of will? nope
If you have no control over it, that is very static, even if next year you'll be one year older.
But one can decide not to be a nazi anymore, or a cult believer, at anytime. That's where the fundamental difference resides. And these different things should be treated differently.
A real problem for me is to have mere opinions protected from critics on the ground of fighting discrimination. It should always be possible to say to someone that what they believe is wrong or simply absurd.
"Static" is definitely the wrong word. I think you are looking for "immutable", which is mentioned on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspect_classification . However, note that "the [Supreme] Court has not declared that any particular set of criteria are either necessary or sufficient to qualify" as a suspect classification.
In any case, the idea of a "protected class" is not "based on being something you can't change about yourself".
That you may want it to be something else is irrelevant. What you believe is wrong and absurd (using your terms), based on the decades of established law and court cases on the topic.
You wrote: "mere opinions protected from critics on the ground of fighting discrimination. It should always be possible to say to someone that what they believe is wrong or simply absurd"
It is (almost) always possible. The question is, should that expression of an opinion be free from negative consequences? The answer is, for the most part, "no".
Furthermore, having "mere opinions" is one thing, while expressing those opinions are another. You might be of the opinion that women are incompetent and should not be hired, and if a women is hired you might express that general opinion to her.
However, as https://www.eeoc.gov/laws/types/sex.cfm points out, in the workplace "it is illegal to harass a woman by making offensive comments about women in general."
(Note: "Unless the conduct is quite severe, a single incident or isolated incidents of offensive sexual conduct or remarks generally do not create an abusive environment. As the Court noted in Vinson, "mere utterance of an ethnic or racial epithet which engenders offensive feelings in an employee would not affect the conditions of employment to a sufficiently significant degree to violate Title VII." ... A "hostile environment" claim generally requires a showing of a pattern of offensive conduct". https://www.eeoc.gov/policy/docs/currentissues.html )
There's plenty of examples in the EEOC guidelines to help understand when something goes beyond "mere opinions" and into the realm where the courts may decide that a given workplace environment is "hostile or offensive".
>No, age and veteran status change over time.
You can't change your date of birth or fact that you were in the armed forces. That is static. Religion is constitutionally protected.
lol wat
Poster is confused by the fact that gender can be fluid but not necessarily something you can just decide to change on a whim.
However, that brought the interesting distinction about differently protecting traits that you can just decide to change, versus those you were just dealt with and are immutable part of you.
So gender is misplaced there, fluid but not so much a choice. However, the question as posed seems still valid to me for opinions : religion and politics.