Oct. 4
google.comLooking at the source, there are two arrays of image filenames specified between script tags on that page. One is "IMAGES", which is referenced by the JS elsewhere, and specifies overlayed over the rectangle.
The other, called EXTRAS, defined but not referenced elsewhere. It contains two entries, pointing at these images: https://madeby.google.com/static/images/tenfour/extras/002.j... and https://madeby.google.com/static/images/tenfour/extras/001.j....
EDIT: oh, turns out this chap found it a while ago: https://twitter.com/hallstephenj/status/778033737040666624
Interpretations:
1. The phone will be available on T-Mobile and Verizon (Magenta/Red)
2. Camera will be good under low-light conditions without flash.
Same people in this photo: https://madeby.google.com/static/images/tenfour/stills/035.j...
I wonder if that's Simone Giertz (the famous "mad inventor" on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3KEoMzNz8eYnwBC34RaKCQ) on the left. She mentionned on instagram that she'd be present at some Google events.
Doesn't look like her.
Really good low-light quality on that selfie.
Incidentally that's also one of the advertised high points about iPhone 7 -- great pictures in low-light.
As an aside, I find the attention to photography by Apple, Google, et al quite intriguing. It makes total sense. On social media, we posture, we put out our best self. Having sophisticated pictures (bokeh? yeah that'll make it look fancy. Not a lot of noise (as is the case for pics taken in low light)? that's another something). In a fantastic way, it is actually the best way to advertise the phone -- the photos people take do it for you! You see your friend's great low-light pics, and you realize your phone can't do that. That's like one of the few remaining forces to compel you to invest into a phone: a phone being a device that's increasingly becoming a commodity for its lack of distinguishing factors.
I wonder what will be the next area of war for phone manufacturers ... maybe AR/VR? Finally wireless charging that works well? Finally battery that can last days (of semi-active use) instead of hours?
I compared my iPhone 6 against a iPhone 7 yesterday. The difference in low light is noticeable even before taking a picture. That, along with the dual lens, may be enough for me to make the change.
The phone on the ground looks like it's got rounded edges like Samsung.
Like the rounded corners rectangle in Photoshop?
The phone lying on the ground must be an iPhone 3G for sure!
All of you are wrong. Aliens have been in touch with Google after hearing about its deep learning prowess, and their partnership announcement will be exclusively broadcast on YouTube live streaming on Oct 4th.
The new phones, the Pixel and Pixel XL are rumored to start at $649 for the smaller phone in the smallest memory configuration of 32gb. If true, this would mean the old Nexus line is well and truly dead and Google is taking the Apple approach to pricing. The Pixel brand is supposed to be premium at a premium price but currently has one product that fills that niche (the Pixel Chromebook) and one that doesn't (the failed Pixel C tablet that was repurposed from an abandoned Chrome OS branch to Android and launched barely functional).
I'm sad to see the Nexus line go away. I quite like my Nexus 5 but have no interest in spending over 600$ on a phone.
Pretty much the only reason I even use Android has been the Nexus line. Why would I want vendor crapware on my phone? Why would I want a Google phone with Google crapware?
> Why would I want vendor crapware on my phone?
This is precisely why myself and my wife are full-on Nexus users.
So, which phones will be good options going forward if you want to avoid crapware?
Get a phone that has an unlockable bootloader and install Cyanogenmod and Google Play (if you must :) ).
Is that possible to do on a Galaxy S7? I'm competent on the command line but never worked much with Android/ROMs/etc.
It looks like there are quite a few options for your device: http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/development . On further investigation, there is a wrinkle - if your device has the Exynos chip, then your options are pretty limited while Snapdragon devices are well supported: http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/development . Unfortunately it looks like it won't be a slam dunk for your particular device.
Unfortunately it looks like it won't be a slam dunk for your particular device.
And this is why I won't attempt to it, since I really don't know what I'm doing. I'd love to use Cyanogenmod but probably won't until I buy a new phone that I feel more comfortable flashing a ROM onto. Looks like I'll just live with crapware for now :)
I understand. However, I do encourage you to read and at least consider rooting the phone (without triggering the flash counter if the phone is under warranty): this will enable you to remove/disable a lot of the 'system' apps that are fairly evil. The first link I included has options for your device for cleaned-up Samsung ROMs.
I have a Sony Xperia Z2 now and I chose the root option instead of the (available) Cyanogenmod install for it since Sony, while being very open to rooting etc., chooses to remove some image enhancement functionality on flashed devices. The root has enabled me to remove a lot of the junk and also install the Xposed framework along with XPrivacy. The latter enables fine-grained control of permissions by app.
Sure it is a bit of work but it depends on how you value your private data. I realize ultimately it might be futile but I am planning to put in as much effort as makes sense to protect my data as best as I know how.
The OnePlus looks like an option, though I haven't ever used one myself. It's got an unlockable bootloader, so an AOSP variant or CyanogenMod should be reasonable simple to install.
I honestly have no idea.
I don't want to go back to a dumbphone. I like having a computer in my hand. But what with privacy, the unsafety of apps, the crapware … what's the point anymore?
Does anyone know of a decent sub 5-inch phone? All the reviews sites seem to ignore this factor. My old 4.3" moto X is dying and I'm hoping to find a truly pocketable replacement.
The "compact" phones in the Sony Xperia line are really the only ones that come close. My wife is still happily using her Z3 Compact though its successor, the Z5 Compact, didn't review as well. The newest Xperia X Compact is getting decent reviews.
Another vote for the Z3C. Small, fast enough for me, and I can easily get two days out of it.
Is the Z3C getting Android updates? How is the Sony software/skin/bloatware/addons compared to the cleanness of the Nexus line?
Sony provided an update to 6.0.1 I did not think the bloatware was as bad as a carrier-branded phone and most of it appears easy enough to delete. For a personal phone, I'd buy the Z3C again. (For my second, work phone, I liked the Z3C enough that I decided to go with a Z3, which I also like.)
On the Z3C, the Sony bloatware is bad. Apparently they've reduced it a bit since then but I haven't gone back. The hardware is nice, it's a shame they have to ruin it with crap.
I fiddled with various settings, and I think managed to disable almost all the bloatware. I get a notification about every two months that Sony's updater needs an update.
I'm pleased with the phone otherwise, and would buy it again.
Check the Sony compact series, or some Chinese brand phone.
agreed. I also feel like I got the shaft with the nexus 5x. it wasn't "top of the line expensive" but it was more than any other nexus phone I'd had, and until Android 7 came out I felt like it was a piece of crap; thankfully that update smoothed performance (or perception) out A LOT for me.
Agreed. Between this and dropped support for Moto G/E, Google is proving to be super flaky, and which has diminished my desire to invest in any of their hardware.
Google sold the Motorola phone division to Lenovo. Are you talking about something that happened before that?
Just saying they generally don't gollow through. Selling off a company would fall under this umbrella. Boston Dynamics anyone. Google is basically the head "mean girl". Bitch will drop you in a second if you're cramping her style.
What would you go with instead? I am also a Nexus 5 user looking for an upgrade of some sort.
If the 650 USD sticker price (which inevitably end up being 700+ EUR) turns out to be true, I'm getting a Chinese phone, most likely a Xiaomi Mi5. I want updates from Google, but not to the tune of an extra 400 EUR. The OnePlus 3 is fine if you can handle 5.5".
I'm in the same boat as gp -- my Nexus 5 is dying, and I'm looking for something similar for under $500. The OnePlus 3 looks perfect, except they have a history of lying about android updates (promising rapid release then taking 7-8 months).
I don't think Google's new Pixel strategy will work well for them. My opinion is Android is inferior to Apple on almost every dimension and I own an android because it was $400 instead of $1k for iphone (7 is $650 + $100 for more than 32g storage + case + 3-5 headphone cables + applecare + tax). So I was hoping for a Pixel that was a good replacement for my Nexus 5 which just decided that using bluetooth should reboot the phone...
I guess I'm more of an Android "fan" in that I prefer it over iOS in general after using both fairly extensively. As is the norm, I find iOS to be a bit more polished than Android but a bit less forgiving when I want to do something that isn't the default behavior.
Granted these are more generalizations but they're a bit of a cliche for a reason. Still, the combination of a bit more flexibility and the ability to buy a Nexus (or that one time, a Moto X) for $350-450 instead of $650 and up for an iPhone has kept me in the Android camp for the past several years.
I've also been holding off on replacing my Nexus 5 and will still wait to see just what the word is on these new Pixel phones but I will say that the higher, more iPhone-like price means I'm likely to be less forgiving of minor issues or complaints that I'd just deal with on a device that costs 2/3 as much.
Just as my Asus laptop has a worse screen than a similar Macbook sold at the time but cost $950 instead of $2200 for otherwise similar specs, I have no problem accepting some tradeoffs for the right price. But if that Asus had be marked at $1950 compared to the $2200 Macbook, I might have just gone with the better viewing angles and better support record.
Still, it's all just speculation. We all make our purchasing decisions after we get a chance to evaluate all of the options. Until the devices and reviews show up, it's all a bit premature.
Check out the OnePlus 3. It's a "flagship killer" at a low price. I have one and it's excellent.
how's their update schedule for Security fixes and OS versions?
How botched are their security lockdown of their phones compared to the Nexus line?
Can't seem to find a list of CVE's fixed with each update (not in their changelogs, that they only post on the forum...) , based on that, they do not fix known security problems.
I was waiting for the Pixels, but the OnePlus 3 looks awesome for the price! How is the camera on that phone? I remember researching OnePlus 2 a while back, and it was the camera that killed it for me.
The camera is much improved from the OnePlus 2. AnandTech did a review here: http://www.anandtech.com/show/10411/the-oneplus-3-review/5
But are they still doing that ridiculous "invite-only" buying model? I really wanted to get a OnePlus One when it came out but they wouldn't ever let me give them money for one.
Not anymore, AFAIK. Starting with the OP3 they switched to an instant purchase model.
They don't.
Same. I was waiting for the Pixel to release so I could hop on Google FI, but if the smaller device is more than $300, you can count me out. I'll just purchase a used Nexus 5X.
That is what I am waiting for also. Google Fi looks good, and would save a ton of money over Verizon, with more flexibility. I didn't care about having a premium phone though. My 2 1/2 year old Note 4 is perfect for my needs, so I might forget about switching to Fi. It does seem strange that if Google ants to grow Fi that they wouldn't have a low cost entry point.
That is not an accurate description of the Pixel C. It's an excellent Android tablet. That some reviewers don't want Android tablets is a separate issue.
It's a quite good Android tablet now. At launch, it was pretty messy. Part of this was because it was supposed to be a Chrome OS tablet but got rushed out as an Android tablet before Android even had split screen. Yes, the OS matters if it limits the hardware. It has 4 mics but didn't even support Google's always on at launch (seriously?). Add to that the fact that the hardware was pretty buggy at launch with lots of users complaining about random reboots and failures.
Ars Technica has a good summary in their "One year later" review of the Pixel C. The reviewer is on his 3rd Pixel C due to hardware failures. http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/09/one-year-later-can-an...
Some units were buggy at launch, clearly. Most weren't. I bought one day one, and still have it; it's been fine the whole time. And yes, it didn't have split screen at launch -- no Android tablet did until Android 7, so that's not some special failing of the Pixel C.
I'm not saying you're wrong, but you didn't really counter anything in the previous post.
One said it launched barely functional, the other said it's an excellent Android tablet. Those are very different.
Is it not true that it could have launched barely functional and updates worked out the kinks so that now it is an excellent tablet?
I doubt many people will buy a $649 phone with run of the mill specs and only 18 months of updates even if it was made by Google (whatever that means).
Google might not remember but nobody bought the Chromebook Pixel or the Pixel C.
All(?) of the top-end Androids in the Verizon store are priced at $650 and above.
In countries where we have the joy of buying phones without contracts, the majority of the customer, doesn't go above the 300€ line, when paying the full price out of their pockets.
The last few years I've not been offered a contract, but the ability to finance the phone. An inversion of the prior contract model, it's more what you expect. There are separate fees for the service, and for the monthly payment for the phone. After X number of months (choosable on purchase, affects per-month phone payment), the phone is paid off and is no longer part of the bill. It's much more straightforward and easy to reason about, and you don't have to immediately try to upgrade when your contract is up so you don't feel like you're paying for more than you're getting.
That is the old model we had with pre-paid in Portugal back when mobile phones were introduced, however they were locked to the provider and it was a fight to get them unlocked at the end of the leasing time.
Eventually our version of FCC got around making it easy to complain if an operator would make someone's life hard regarding unlocking.
Verizon has at least broken the phone payments out, so a customer can compare the upfront price and a purchase contract. I guess the others have also.
Their advertising is still ridiculously misleading. They say the "Verizon Plan" starts at $35 a month, but that's before activating a device (which is $10 for a tablet and $15 for a phone) and taxes/fees. Cheapest phone is going to be ~$55 per month, it's ridiculous that they emphasize the $35 in their advertising.
That's great, but they arent buying top-end phones then, and they have lots of optona, so new premium phone announcements aren't interesting.
Cause people be sane.
That's what people buy - whatever is in the carrier store and whatever they see on TV ads. Besides isn't there a monthly plan most carriers offer?
I mean with Project Fi the Pixel phones could be a equally attractive deal for Regular Joe but they would still have to advertise it heavily and offer better value through extended updates.
Why 18? Nexus line had 3 years of support and still continues to receive security updates after that.
Where do you get that three years of support figure from? The only official numbers I've ever heard was 18 months, which lines up roughly with my experience.
I have a N5, which came out (just) less than three years ago, and it is not getting Nougat, which was released a few weeks ago. The last major update it got was around a year ago.
AFAICT with Google you're guaranteed to get the next OS version, if you're lucky you'll get the next next one (like N5 did with MM), but that's it.
Which, compared to iOS, feels pretty stingy.
Two years of major-release support, and three years of security support: http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/08/05/google-announces-new...
Right, so still pretty bad compared to iOS: iOS10 just came out and supports the iPhone 5, which was released 4 years ago. I presume if they had some massive security issue they'd backport it to versions of iOS older than 10.
(I am no iOS fanboy, but honestly I'm sick of the android expectation of getting a new phone every 2 years, and they seem to be the only ones who are even pretending to give a shit with their old phone support. They still don't give as many shits as I'd like, but I cannot find their better).
Don't look at it from the time the phone started being sold, look at it from the time the phone stopped being sold. Android and iOS are very comparable then. The difference is that Apple keeps selling old models (at high prices) for three years.
I get what you're saying, but it doesn't help practically with the idea what I don't want to buy a new phone all the time.
If I wasn't so wed to Android the right thing to do would be to buy whatever iPhone was new at the time and ride it down until they stopped providing updates. Especially because (anecdotally, of course) iPhone battery life seems to last much better over time than Android, so not only will I continue to receive updates for longer, but it will actually be a usable phone for longer.
I don't care when my device stopped being sold. I care when I bought it, how long it lasts. I appreciate that I get even more life from my phone if I buy it when it is new
I don't think Apple typically releases security updates for older versions of iOS, although they do for the Mac. I don't see any iOS 8 updates available after 9 shipped, for example:
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201222
I believe your overall point remains valid, though. The most recent hardware that can't update to iOS 9 is the iPhone 4, which shipped five years before iOS 9, and was last sold 3 years ago.
And for the official source: https://support.google.com/nexus/answer/4457705?hl=en#nexus_...
> If true, this would mean the old Nexus line is well and truly dead and Google is taking the Apple approach to pricing.
What old Nexus line are you talking about?
Most[1] Nexus phones have been priced high at launch with fairly average specs, if not disappointing.
I believe the 6P is the one truly high-end Nexus, and then there's the 5X that was grossly overpriced everywhere but in the US, and finally the Nexus 4 and 5 which were very good deals from the get-go.
[1] Nexus One, Nexus S, Galaxy Nexus, Nexus 6
I want... 1) a thicker phone, so I can grab it without the grip feeling precarious, and because it has a super-sized battery that easily lasts ll day and all night. 2) 2 cameras, yes, but specifically for depth perception, because omg all the amazing programs I could write! 3) waterproof, cause I like pulling my phone out in the rain and I'm a klutz.
Yep on phones and laptops both the thinness trend has gone too far. Battery life and thermals both suffer because of this. Would prefer a slight correction towards thicker phones / laptops that run longer and cooler.
That's become a race, so we're mostly hopeless.
> 1) a thicker phone, so I can grab it without the grip feeling precarious, and because it has a super-sized battery that easily lasts ll day and all night.
I'm dreading the day my lame-o iPhone 5c with a slowly-dying screen becomes unusable, because it can go over 3 days without a charge provided I don't use the GPS. If I charge it at work Friday it'll usually still have ~40% charge Monday morning, having been unplugged all weekend. I barely even think about the battery level.
Sign me up for thicker phones with a bigger battery. And no stupid, ugly, scratch-attracting camera bump on the back.
Mophie case
iPhone SE
2 cameras aren't enough for an accurate depth map though, right? I thought you need infrared.
I've never heard of a single infrared camera being used for depth-finding...
Are you thinking of some active scanning technology such as LIDAR? Or the infrared grid-of-dots projection that the kinect uses?
Infra-red cameras are used in the LeapMotion controllers. I don't think it is anything special about the spectrum however, coupled with Infra-red lights it's an easy way to cut down on the noise in the comtrollers field of view.
Depends but there are computer vision techniques for deriving depth from two or more calibrated cameras. It may not be super accurate but it is likely do-able.
It's almost off-topic, but for people that grew up in my town (Assisi), including me of course, October 4th will always be St.Francis' day.
October 4th is many things...
The release date 10-4 is radio code for "understood":
OKAY, so I get that they are promoting (probably) the camera/photos but with the photos filling the whole device, it almost makes you wonder if they are doing full color custom high DPI printed back covers (which would be good, since its so ugly if leaked pics are correct).
Or maybe they are going to be the first with a full slab of glass on the front with seamless edge to edge display (hah yeah right) - if its not either of those things, they just set people up for massive disappointment.
I get an HTTP 404 not found
>The requested URL /fourten was not found on this server. That’s all we know.
Unless I open the url with chrome.
WELCOME TO THE FUTURE OF THE OPEN INTERNET /s
This is strangely true.
Are you in the US? Google has this terrible system where they "geo IP" then return nonsensical results.
Travel with an Android phone, and watch the Play Store go bilingual, mostly in English, with random parts showing up in e.g. Spanish.
I got that 404 several times with firefox and none with chrome.
The redirect to madeby.google.com works now, I wonder what happened...
I still get the 404... However, is there a typo in the title or did they do it on purpose?
<title>Error 404 (Not Found)!!1</title>
Back in the day, no link on a google domain that pointed to a google domain was a 404 link. That's right, zero 404s, site wide.
So the 404 page was pretty much only seen by IT folk--people who would type in their own URLs instead of clicking links...
And those people, the people who type a lot... had probably seen the old meme in which the trailing ! in a string of !!! is replaced by a 1, as would happen if you were typing quickly and let go of shift a little early...
They did that to be cute!!!1
My guess? a smart phone that has machine vision built in? ten four? sounds like tensor flow - machine learning.
Interesting how the search box grew to include images...
> ten four? sounds like tensor flow - machine learning.
Sounds a lot more like "10-4"
Like the already available App "Goggles" built right into the OS...might be possible. It is quite amazing what Goggles achieves actually (recognises places and things with very high certainty (aka reverse image search but nonetheless..))
I hope it's the next step on. Goggles 2010 would compare the photo for similarities with other photos (I guess) where I'd like to think this would know the objects within the photo. This would likely improve better feedback. I'm likely wrong, but you never know.
Like Tango?
Ten Four = 10/4 = October 4th = The date of the announcement
Will it have a headphone jack?
That made me chuckle. Who would have thought having a headphone jack would be a defining feature?
Will it have a real, physical keyboard?
That's why I bought the first Google phone and I still use it.
You still use the G1?!
Correct.
How's the battery life?
Genuinely curious. I'd like to use a phone with a hardware-keyboard as my daily driver too, but the only ones I can find are so old their batteries have worn down to the point of being functionally unacceptable.
I have bought a new battery twice, and the last one I have lasts about 1.5 day or so and I bought it maybe a year ago. I am not a heavy user but you can still find the battery on the market - the one I have was made by "Cameron Sino", model CS-HDE160SL, it's Lion battery with 1150 mAh (as they claim). I bought the G1 pretty late, I think two years after it was introduced, so I have it maybe 8 years now?
What OS are you running? I do the Google services still work? Can webpages even really load due to heavy JS today?
I am still running Android 1.6. Google services - Gmail doesn't seem to work anymore (and I never used it very much), Maps I do use and they work, Talk I never used, Market I think worked OK till about a year ago. I cannot upgrade most apps I have on it, because the new version doesn't work on such old Android. I pretty much only use it today for calls and texting, and that works, and I guess most apps I have on it (including original Google Apps for things like Music, Calendar etc.) still works.
Regarding browsing, yeah, it's somewhat usable in emergency (the pages will load) but I never got very used to do it because the speed was always abysmal here (Czech Republic). The original Google browser still works.
So, I guess I cannot recommend buying one now (although perhaps with Cyanogenmod it would be better), but it works for me and I really wish I could replace it with something that has keyboard. :-(
Actually, I just tested it and Gmail works, I just haven't used it for a long time, so it took a while to update all the messages. :-)
I'm not sure if it's available in the US, but I bought a Samsung Galaxy A5 in Thailand for about $220 and with the level of quality it offers for such a low price, I have a very hard time understanding why anyone would pay 3-5x that for a "premium" phone: http://www.trustedreviews.com/samsung-galaxy-a5-review
It says 5 Oct. in Australia
It's going to be streamed at 9AM PDT (UTC -07:00), which is 2:00 AM the next morning in Sydney (UTC +10:00)
If you were leading the Pixel phone effort what would you choose as the top three market differentiators?
To start one small thing I'd do is match Apple on the length of update support window.
> To start one small thing I'd do is match Apple on the length of update support window.
That will win you over the tech-fanboys, but is that anything normal people take into account when they pick a phone? I probably hear more complaints about new versions of iOS "making my phone worse" than Android users complaining about not getting updates.
Google has been making noises about Android for Work for a while. To get businesses to start taking Android seriously, Google needs a flagship line of devices with business-class software support, especially in terms of security patches. Even though many apps have been moved to the Play Store, Google Play can't patch problems in the kernel or system libraries.
I honestly can't see why people care so much about having long update windows. Batteries simply aren't good for many cycles so it doesn't make sense to support a phone for longer than its battery will last.
Also, it's a pretty reasonable assumption that users who don't care to be on the latest hardware don't care to be on the latest software.
Which is entirely by design, when they make batteries not be swappable. If your goal is to make a good product, it makes perfect sense to have a long update window, just as it makes perfect sense to offer replacement batteries.
If your goal is to make a good product then introducing points of failure around its power supply probably isn't a great idea.
The battery itself is a far bigger point of failure than the connection to the battery. If your goal is to make a good product, it is worth introducing a small failure mode in order to remove a larger one. Since most phones no longer have replaceable batteries, they are hosed once the battery no longer holds a charge.
I used my iPhone 4S from 2011 till today. Battery is still fine according to coconutBattery. I am very glad I am not stuck on iOS 5, but that Apple supported it till iOS 9.3
As an aside: If your battery dies you don't have to buy a new smartphone, but just a replacement battery. On ebay it costs around 10 dollars with tools.
Assuming this isn't a roundabout way of saying you've replaced your battery a few times then you have been exceptionally careful and have been lucky to get and exceptionally good battery. Your situation is going to be experienced by a statistically insignificant amount of people.
For most users a 5 year old battery is going to be completely useless and it's going to be attached to a screen that has been shattered beyond usability.
Because of security.
Hardware encryption support like the iPhone has so I can securely use a PIN instead of text password.
SD card slot
Extensions for Chrome browser on Android
My money is on:
+ something like PTT (push to talk) for video. Like Google Duo but with whatever high-level OS/hardware changes were required to make it work well.
+ edge-to-edge screen (thanks benmcnelly)
Why? Look at these people in the photos... They are hip (AF) and they are on scooters. They are mobile and care about appearances...
Not looking forward to the new rumored price tag ($649+). Might have to go back to OnePlus then.
Is this about the Daydream VR headset?
http://uploadvr.com/report-googles-daydream-vr-headset-calle...
Whatever it is, judging by the source code, it seems to be called "TenFour". This redirects, too http://google.com/tenfour
Or TenFour refers to the announcement date: 10/4.
Or someone ported TenFourFox to it.
...Okay, maybe not that.
My first though was "that's just 4 October; I expect all URIs redirect".
But they don't all redirect, so that is interesting (and presumably why that date).
EDIT: `/tenfour` doesn't redirect either..?
Though, to be fair, the `IMAGES` array has everything stored under 'tenfour' directory, still, I imagine it's just a code name for the project, given the release/announce date.
10/4 is the day of the announcement
Interesting that they used both 10/4 and 4/10 for the URL... They care about internationalization!
That format also has the benefit of being in the correct order when sorting by name and by date.
I use that format to sort my picture folders. So, sorting by name sorts by date as well.
Additionally, I add the month text (mmm) as well to the date, which makes it easy for me to quickly recognize the month, otherwise I mostly have to count :(
So like, 2016-09(Sep)-19
That way, the sorting still works, and I get to see 3 letter month abbreviations as well.
What's funny is since in work I mainly use SQL timestamps, and I live in Japan (which uses numerical months in their language), I actually have trouble with the named months now. Like I keep mixing up which of June and July is first...
> Additionally, I add the month text (mmm) as well to the date, which makes it easy for me to quickly recognize the month, otherwise I mostly have to count :(
I have the exact opposite: if I see a date with the name of a month I mentally convert it to the month number first.
Windows Live Photo Gallery got this more right than anything else I've seen.
You could filter by folder and display by date, or ignore folders and filter by date. And it had an easy UI for filtering by tags (that were pulled from photo metadata, not stored in an internal database).
(I suppose I bring it up because it worked well enough to make manually fiddling with sorting photos mostly uninteresting)
That seems weird.
I've known the month numbers since early childhood. Dates were often read as "the twentieth of the ninth, [twenty] sixteen", especially if they were being written down: 20/09/2016.
Though now I see it can't make sense if read in the American order.
Maybe they are planning a 6 month release cycle to up the game.
Uses angular 1.5.7
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