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Stop Drinking Bottled Water

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42 points by spencera 9 years ago · 30 comments

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cylinder 9 years ago

At my last job, everyone drank several bottles of water a day (freely available in the fridge). And they couldn't be bothered walking the empty bottles to the kitchen where there was a recycling bin - straight to the trash.

This, even though they added filtering to already good NYC tap water. Only myself and one other person bothered to fill up a glass instead of take a bottle.

I sometimes feel like Americans go out of their way to be wasteful. Like it is some sort of badge of honor or expression of wealth to be able to do this or have a giant SUV that gets 3mpg.

Edit: don't get me started on the Keurig machine!

  • Lagged2Death 9 years ago

    Status symbols are inherently wasteful. Waste and the situation implied by that waste (high status and affluence) is their function. I believe this is generally true across cultures, but it's often easier to see them for what they are in someone else's culture.

    • Bombthecat 9 years ago

      So we Germans aren't right in our mind trying to push for recycling and energy waste?

  • Apofis 9 years ago

    I don't know, I live in NYC and after I bought a filter I started drinking a lot more tap water. There's still something in the water that improves that waters taste after it's removed.

gravypod 9 years ago

Drinking bottled water, where I live, is kind of the only sane choice.

I was made fun of all last semester by dorm-mates about not drinking anything but bottled. Low and behold, there was a crap ton of lead found in the water after testing (along with many other particles).

How did I know this would be the case?

Any city or town built more then 70 years ago has this problem. This isn't as resistant in rich hipster places but in most of the US it is a problem.

Filtered and or bottle water is really the only way to go. Drinking the tap is not a good idea at all, no matter how many people tell you to.

I'm also the kind of person who uses many of the bottles I drink from for other purposes. (Starting flowers, cutting in half to make pen holders, etc)

goldenkey 9 years ago

Not all bottled water is sold by PepsiCo. Not all tap water is as healthy as alkaline spring water. Tap water is often going through tons of piping, heavily florinated or chlorinated, and can be tainted with microbes. (Hence the need for halogens.) Faucet water is good for some things. It still is beneficial to have sanitary water for boiling food, bathing or showering. But some of the tap water in America is quite poor in terms of drinkability.

  • collyw 9 years ago

    I moved from Scotland (great tap water) to Barcelona (crap tap water). I bought bottled water to begin with but found the amount of plastic in the trash depressing so I bought a water filter. No carrying water home and less trash and probably works out cheaper.

    • Bombthecat 9 years ago

      What kind of filter are you using?

      I want to filter too. Right now I'm using filters which needs to be exchanged every month and filters water very slow :(

      Any tips?

      • goldenkey 9 years ago

        Activated carbon lined with silver works pretty well. PUR sells these. Unfortunately, the power of activated carbon comes from its pourousness. And therefore it will always filter much slower than the faucet gpm due to the resistance which all good filters will provide. You can try compensating by turning the faucet on very high output. Faucet filters will always be quicker than any pitcher filter because of that ability to add additional gpm pressure.

VeejayRampay 9 years ago

I don't like namedropping brands, but I bought a Sigg water bottle about 5 years ago, cost me 20 euros, it's rock solid and it just works as a container. It could be any other brand really, just anything with a large enough volume that you fill it in the morning and drink from it all day long before washing it at night, leaving it to dry and starting over in the morning. It's a good system.

k__ 9 years ago

My mother always bought bottled water. It was normal that we had about 2 chests of water bottles at home.

I never did this after I got my own flat. Too lazy to carry bottles and to greedy to pay that much money for it.

anotheryou 9 years ago

Thankfully I'm lazy enough not to buy bottled water. In my city the water is good, but tastes not so good (many many minerals. If i dry my black trousers the wrong way around I'll be left with lines of minerals on the outside (like dried sweat)). With tea the taste is very obvious.

eggy 9 years ago

Yes, I get the reasons, and I try to avoid buying small bootles of drinking water, but living here in East Java, Indonesia right now with my one-year old baby girl, I am drinking the watercooler-sized plastic bottles on the dispenser.

It is a poor, rice farming village where you cannot be certain about the quality of the well water without testing that is not readily available. It would need to be done for each household on a monthly (minimum) basis to account for the rainy/dry season, periods of fertilizing, and spraying of pesticides. It is simply not practical, and requires a huge cultural shift, and money. I am currently working on rubbish removal here too just out of personal reasons. That and bringing awareness to rubbish burning, and improper disposal. Slow and hard going. On the positive side, people here do reuse a plastic bottle for at least 10 more uses before discarding them unlike my peers back in NY.

I think the dismissal, or using Flint as more reason to not drink bottled water is unsubstantiated. Political ineptitude/corruption seems to have been the main cause there, or at least why it continued hidden for so long. Truthfully I have not followed it lately, and apologize if this is now incorrect. Although, Flint has made me question my own municipal drinking water back in Brooklyn, NY where I was born and raised. I am not sure it makes me feel better that it could be hidden for so long Flint. I realize plastic bottling has its cons as well.

I am not sure about using cans or glass. Cans have their spoilage history. They are usually coated, and I would think they weigh more, so incur a higher transportation fuel cost. Glass is easy to break, cause injury, and heavy. I like it, and personally I reuse glass containers from purchased foods all the time. Maybe a reinforced glass that could be thin and resist breakage like Pyrex? I love the material.

Plastic bottles are noisy, since the walls are very thin, because they minimized the amount of PET used to maximize profits. Therefore the amount of plastic is less than most back-of-the-envelope calculations I have seen. The energy value of one 500ml PET bottle is worth less than a penny, and that is after collecting and processing them. Recycled PET costs more than new. And, because they are thin, and compress easily, they take up a lot less of landfill than most people imagine. I still don't like it, and wish for a better solution; I just like to put real numbers on things, and focus my energies on things that provide the most return on my efforts.

The annual gas you use to shop for your other goods far exceeds the carbon footprint of the roundtrip cost of your plastic water bottle by two or more orders of magnitude. Unless like me back in the US, you biked to the store. Now the food is right around me. No market runs!

Same goes for plastic bags. They are so much thinner and stronger than a decade ago, and I am not sure paper bags were the way to reduce carbon footprint, or net a postive return for the environment, but it made a lot of first-worlders sleep better at night for the wrong reasons. I had the dirt floor here tiled though, so I am still a first-worlder, and I guess I will always be!

I dislike the sound of crinkling water bottles, and find the plastic accordion simile hilarious and true!

Tidbit: I took care of one of the world's largest commercial indoor pools over here in SE Asia for over 5 years, so I am very familiar with water treatment and filtration too. There are a lot of misconceptions about it. For instance, if you smell 'chlorine' it's not chlorine, since chlorine is odorless. You are smelling the byproduct of the free chlorine having broken down some organic matter like sweat, urine and skin into. You are smelling chloramines, and they are not an indicator of a sterile or safe pool.

benbristow 9 years ago

What about flavoured water?

Maximal 9 years ago

I drink Contrex bottled water, because its mineral content provides me with 58% Calcium and 19% Mangnesium per litre.

I balance the negative impact of bottle water (which I acknowledge and dislike) with the fact I am vegan.

gondo 9 years ago

What about cities/countries where tap water is not drinkable? Like: Tokyo, UAE, Indonesia, Philippines...

  • doall 9 years ago

    Tap water is drinkable anywhere in Japan.

    • marak830 9 years ago

      I second this, havnt had issues drinking water anywhere. I'm grandparents use a tap filter, but I think that's more mental than anything.

      • 1_player 9 years ago

        I don't remember the source, but I recall reading that, paradoxically, tap water in cities is much better quality than bottled water, due to stricter controls. Probably doesn't taste as good, but you can be quite sure it won't harm you.

        The tap water from the small village in the Italian country I was born in is the best I've ever had, but I drink straight from the tap in London without any issues, except when I need to satisfy my craving for sparkling water.

        • messick 9 years ago

          You are referencing water standards in the USA. Each water type fell under the authority of a different Federal agency. EPA for tap, FDA for bottled, I believe. The FDA has lesser standards. My thoughts are because, at the time, only suckers would pay money for something that was practically free.

          In any case, the standards have now been made the same.

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