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A free-pass for skilled migrants to live and work in selected countries

hackmove.com

33 points by humbertomn 10 years ago · 22 comments

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coolanymous 10 years ago

I'm an immigrant myself and I'm not sure how exactly software is going to help with this process. It's true that there is a lot of paperwork involved and that could potentially be easier using more integrated software (that keeps your information and plugs it through all systems as opposed to you writing your info 10+ times). However, the main problem with immigration is not the paperwork but the bureaucratic regulations and emotional aspects.

ryanackley 10 years ago

Best-case, this is misleading advertising. Worst case, it's some kind of scam.

They show a picture of Sydney Opera House. This implies they will help you to get a visa to Australia. As someone who has an Australian work visa, this is most likely false. First, you need to be sponsored by a company. Second, the process is rather involved. The company that sponsored me hired an attorney to handle it. In the USA, I hear it's a very similar process.

CPLX 10 years ago

When the old valley idea of putting up a launchrock vapor page runs headlong into the reality of international immigration law...

justinhj 10 years ago

As an immigrant to Canada I'm quite familiar with the process. The government department responsible is overloaded and takes months to progress applications. Often having to contact an applicant for more info moves you back in the queue. Regulations change rarely. In general the whole system feels sluggish and resistant to change. The idea that a software company could convince every nation to fit a foreign globally recognized automated back door into their processes seems very ambitious to say the least.

humbertomnOP 10 years ago

Hi guys, author here. The initial interest is being used to start conversations with immigration departments from small states around the world. Australia, Canada, New Zealand and the Netherlands already use a points-based system to grant visas for skilled workers. The idea is to create a standard international certification that would allow skilled migrants to move freely around countries that accept it, just like they do with TOEFL for the English language requirement.

  • hunvreus 10 years ago

    I'd recommend you make your intentions a lot clearer. A simple front page with no explanation of what to expect combined with a single link to a cryptic manifesto page [1] isn't what I'd engage with.

    [1]: http://blog.hackmove.com/manifesto

  • maxerickson 10 years ago

    Your ambitious phrasing makes it really hard to discuss in contexts like HN, people focus on the part where what you are talking about doesn't actually exist.

    I would guess the political problem is a lot harder than the technical one. Zero sum thinking and all that.

sbilstein 10 years ago

Sounds like a good & scammy way to associate email addresses with LinkedIn profiles.

hartator 10 years ago

Awesome initiative, however I would suggest to avoid presenting this as an early application to something.

PS: Specially for the US, as you are presenting SF as a potential destination, I don't think that will make USCIS happy.

nraynaud 10 years ago

be reminded that for the US at least, if you show any official attempt at permanent immigration you could get banned from any temporary entry for fear of overstaying.

tosseraccount 10 years ago

What the heck? Is this a scam?

Sorry, but this looks like a splash sign up page for services for immigration attorneys.

The immigration process, even for "special" people, is not that simple.

We really need some details on who is "special" and what "selected" countries are available.

A free pass to hack PERL in the Comoros Islands ain't that great a thing.

krishna_sh 10 years ago

This is almost as vague as Mars One program. How specifically is it going to work for which specific countries?

baby 10 years ago

So you will get me a working visa in the US? I doubt it.

m00dy 10 years ago

Hey,

skilled immigrant here. I live in Stockholm.

I think that US immigration system is broken. They have to fix h1b a.k.a slavery visa thingy. That is the primary reason why I am not moving to US. I am not sure how you guys provide that free-pass.

  • oneloop 10 years ago

    Care to expand? I know absolutely nothing about the subject, but I've heard the same before.

    • m00dy 10 years ago
    • conception 10 years ago

      Your legality is tied to your job. So if you want to stay in the country, you have to basically be a "slave" to your workplace and meet their demands, etc.

      • Eldarrion 10 years ago

        Not completely true. If you get fired, you have a month to find a different job. Of course, the issue is with finding a different job that is willing to jump through the hoops involved in letting immigration know that you are now working with them, but there are plenty. Problem is, of course, that knowing that you are dependent on them, some companies will give you worse conditions than a resident/citizen with the same skills would have, especially as far as the salary is concerned.

        • amlgsmsn 10 years ago

          >Not completely true. If you get fired, you have a month to find a different job.

          Not true. You're accumulating illegal stay from the moment you're fired.

jackgavigan 10 years ago

Relevant information: The person behind this (and the submitter) runs wannamigrate.com

Grue3 10 years ago

What if I'm pretty skilled but don't have a LinkedIn?

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