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Heroku2scalingo: migrate from Heroku to Scalingo in a minute

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106 points by _Soulou · 46 comments

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adam-_-

Has anyone used scalingo? How has the experience been? The pricing is favourable but I've never heard of them.

jmnicolas

Looks interesting for Europeans that don't want their servers accessed / seized by the FBI, but they should clarify if they own the servers or rent them to an US cloud company (Amazon / MS etc).

On their data-center page they just show a map with their 2 data-centers (both are in France, they might use OVH).

  • yannski

    Yep, you're right, we'll clarify that: we're renting bare metal servers from a french company which is not OVH http://www.agora-hosting.net/

  • michaelmior

    I assume you mean rent them from a US company?

    • jmnicolas

      You're perfectly right I should have written "from". I can't edit the sentence anymore though.

    • maximedev

      No, they are French, based in France.

      • xj9

        "they should clarify if they own the servers or rent them to an US cloud company (Amazon / MS etc)."

        I think that was a grammatical question. As in, they don't rent to AWS or MS, but from them. (not that they actually do either)

      • michaelmior

        I understand that they are based in Europe. This was a grammatical question since the parent used the phrase "rent them to an US cloud company."

hellofunk

This is very nice to see another contender in the PaaS arena, one that also uses the mechanisms Heroku put in place. What really remains to be seen, however, is the reliability of the service. Our production app has been on Heroku for over a year now and we've had very little issue with things, and there is certainly a lot that can go wrong in a complex environment.

  • mark_l_watson

    Good point. I have different reliability requirements, I think, from most developers. Since I like to travel a lot, my measurement for reliability is how secure I feel that my apps will stay running on server reboots or equipment failure/replacement.

    I consider most VPS vendors to be reliable in the sense that as long as /etc/roc.local, or a modern equivalent, starts all services on reboot. But, I feel more secure with a PaaS provider who I trust. For now I am using Azure for VPS (Bizspark participant) and Heroku and Bluemix for PaaS.

mark_l_watson

I like to use PaaS so it is good to see competition. It looks like a 512MB instance is about half way between Heroku hobby and professional plans: $7 to $18 to $25 per month.

The Heroku hobby plan, which is what I use, lacks the easy horizontal scaling.

tylerflint

How do you keep containers isolated?

Do you just run multiple docker containers from different apps on the same host?

Do you provide any sort of network isolation between apps?

  • _SoulouOP

    Currently, we are running multiple containers from different apps on the same host. These containers are running with unprivileged users and reduced capabilities but in the same network. It will probably change in the future for a higher level of isolation.

fermigier

Is "Leo Unbekandt" the real name of your CTO, or a pseudonym ?

  • _SoulouOP

    I think it's my real name, proof underneath :-)

    http://i.imgur.com/onAPdMr.jpg

    • vidarh

      Any interesting story behind the surname?

      (Might be worth explaining why it sounds made up/like a pseudonym: Unbekannt in German means unknown; similar variations has the same meaning in a range of Germanic languages)

      • _SoulouOP

        Interesting not really, someone in my family made some research about its past and return to the XVIIth century. From there, we can only make assumptions.

Paulods

Interesting. You should look into providing servers in Japan. Heroku won't and it's a big issue here in Tokyo.

hankmander

How is it with plugins and Scalingo? We use a lot of heroku plugins for mongodb, logging, monitoring etc.

yeasayer

Does Scalingo offers free plan like Heroku?

  • yannski

    Unfortunately, we had to discontinue our free plan. Too much work for no money :/ We setup a free trial instead (30 days, no credit card required).

  • gamesbrainiac

    They have a free trial, not a free plan. Free plan is for 30 days and does not require a credit card.

yunti

What are the uptime metrics on Scalingo? I see there are no uptime guarantees /SLAs. http://www.paasify.it/vendors/scalingo Here is heroku's uptime metric by way of benchmark. https://status.heroku.com/uptime?region=EU

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